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the longer the white house slow- walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: behind the scenes, progress is being made, but democrats are still arguing they've given ground in previous budget battles. that's one reason they are holding firm on higher taxes now. >> $1.6 trillion in cuts. "where are the cuts?" they are in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> reporter: and there were new calls for more tax revenue today. warren buffett, vanguard founder john bogle, and financier george soros were among the famous names to call for a tougher estate tax. their proposal would exempt couples with up to $4 million in assets from the estate tax. above that level, estates would pay a 45% tax rate, rising to 50% or more on very large estates. supporters say that would both bring in badly needed revenue and help protect our democracy. >> it works to reduce concentrations of economic and political power across generations, and those concentrations are antithetical to the basic premise, if you will, of the founding of our republic, which was that it
the longer the white house slow- walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: behind the scenes, progress is being made, but democrats are still arguing they've given ground in previous budget battles. that's one reason they are holding firm on higher taxes now. >> $1.6 trillion in cuts. "where are the cuts?" they are in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> reporter: and there were new calls for more tax revenue today....
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if we could start rid fiscal cliff and get confidence we could have hiring, which should be in the 2 or 3,000 range, stop messing around with this 100, 150,000 a month. >> as steve said, tomorrow is a big day on christina. the fed decision at 12:15 followed by complete coverage of bernanke's conference beginning at 2:00 p.m. eastern, which, by the way, is the start of "street signs." right, brian? >> yes. and that 2:15 special will be mosted by me. i would give steve liesman a high-five as we go by trains, i'm on the milk train for amtrak. we've got a rally today, there's a big lack of trust in the market. next, a new survey says 68% of people do not think stocks ar safe place for their money. ouch. >> housing could get hit hard, double ouch, if we go over that cliff. but could a deal hurt even more? if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink h
if we could start rid fiscal cliff and get confidence we could have hiring, which should be in the 2 or 3,000 range, stop messing around with this 100, 150,000 a month. >> as steve said, tomorrow is a big day on christina. the fed decision at 12:15 followed by complete coverage of bernanke's conference beginning at 2:00 p.m. eastern, which, by the way, is the start of "street signs." right, brian? >> yes. and that 2:15 special will be mosted by me. i would give steve...
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i think that just discounting any probability we have a fiscal cliff, if we do, and negotiations brick down, then market i think will be way overpriced for the very difficult economy. we'll see in the first half of next year. lou: we might see it before the end of the year, if it is clear, this may be part of the game, they try to keep in am pickous to whether or not there will be a dial, that would be a slick portion of this negotiation. i do not know what to make of it. i do think this republicans are now incentivized to go over the cliff, and seek sequest raising sequestration in force. it gives republicans want they want, two-for-one spending cuts to tax hikes it gets intresting. >> it is, some of the commentary i've seen, suggestions that the president i talking about more x increases than spending cuts, that is -- >> 2 to 1. >> yeah contrary to the original agreement. lou: well imagine that. president turning things on its head, john silvio thank you. >> thank you. lou: and straightening us out. looking now at "new york times" bestseller list, i thought this week was really, news
i think that just discounting any probability we have a fiscal cliff, if we do, and negotiations brick down, then market i think will be way overpriced for the very difficult economy. we'll see in the first half of next year. lou: we might see it before the end of the year, if it is clear, this may be part of the game, they try to keep in am pickous to whether or not there will be a dial, that would be a slick portion of this negotiation. i do not know what to make of it. i do think this...
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that deadline isn't even the real fiscal cliff. david: that strategist is none other than peter schiff, ceo of europacific precious metals. friend of the show. peter, although i wish it was under better circumstances. you say the real cliff coming is bigger han the housing mess, bigger than the housing crisis we went through. it's the bond mess. specifically when the fed stops printing money to buy up treasurys all hell will break loose, right? >> well, and if it continues to print money it will be a bigger hell. if we avoid the fiscal cliff we end up throwing the dollar over the currency cliff because we send a message to the world america will never pay its bills. we'll keep borrowing money until the creditors cut us off. that is when interest rates skyrocket. the pressure on the fed and if the fed caves in to buy up all the bonds nobody wants we destroy the dollar. that is even bigger crisis than if we let the bond market collapse and let it take the economy with it. liz: let's not start so macro. we're throwing out this term th
that deadline isn't even the real fiscal cliff. david: that strategist is none other than peter schiff, ceo of europacific precious metals. friend of the show. peter, although i wish it was under better circumstances. you say the real cliff coming is bigger han the housing mess, bigger than the housing crisis we went through. it's the bond mess. specifically when the fed stops printing money to buy up treasurys all hell will break loose, right? >> well, and if it continues to print money...
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over the fiscal cliff, and around the capitol there's largely the sound of silence as the white house and congress try to work out a deal behind closed doors. the president has no public events on his schedule. and all through the house, not a creature was stirring except, that is, for john boehner, who emerged to gavel the house into session this afternoon after a week's recess with his trademark holiday cheer. >> washington has a spending problem. now, the president doesn't agree with our approach. he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> i'm sorry, i meant his trademark ba ham bug which he's been doling out by the sleigh load. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we've got to cut spending. washington has got a spending problem. just more of the same. >> more of the same indeed. and as minority leader nancy pelosi today declared with americans mak
over the fiscal cliff, and around the capitol there's largely the sound of silence as the white house and congress try to work out a deal behind closed doors. the president has no public events on his schedule. and all through the house, not a creature was stirring except, that is, for john boehner, who emerged to gavel the house into session this afternoon after a week's recess with his trademark holiday cheer. >> washington has a spending problem. now, the president doesn't agree with...
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the longer the white house slow walk the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. herhere's what we do know. we know the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts for reforms. that is not fixing our problem, frankly, it is making it worse. on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many small-business owners. but even if we did exactly what the president wants, we would see red ink for as far as the eye can see. that is not fixing our problem either, just making it worse. i think the members know i am an optimist. i am hopeful we can reach an agreement. this is a serious issue and there's a lot at stake. the american people sent us here to work together. toward the best possible solution, and that means cutting spending. now if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he has an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the commerce. because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious. >> to some that
the longer the white house slow walk the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. herhere's what we do know. we know the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts for reforms. that is not fixing our problem, frankly, it is making it worse. on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many small-business owners. but even if we did exactly what the president wants, we would see red ink for as far as the eye can see....
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first, forget the fiscal cliff, because the economy is coming back. americans are feeling more optimistic about 2013 and if we play our cards right, we're going to see a new economic renaissance. td ameritrade recently surveyed folks on their outlook for the new year. 43% say they're downright optimistic about the economy and believe we're headed for a rebound. 45% are feeling good about their own finances, but we already know that things are starting to get better. look, we're adding jobs every month, consumer debt continues to shrink. stock markets are up. longer term, though. america will reap the rewards of its domestic energy boom and more oil and gas gets extracted. the drop in the price of natural gas is already helping utilities and factories compete. that's creating more american jobs. and there is more. housing will be the golden lining to the economic cloud that is hanging over this country. mortgage rates are at historic low and should stay that way for the next two years but home prices have seen their bottom and are heading back up. when
first, forget the fiscal cliff, because the economy is coming back. americans are feeling more optimistic about 2013 and if we play our cards right, we're going to see a new economic renaissance. td ameritrade recently surveyed folks on their outlook for the new year. 43% say they're downright optimistic about the economy and believe we're headed for a rebound. 45% are feeling good about their own finances, but we already know that things are starting to get better. look, we're adding jobs...
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while congressional leaders trade jabs on the fiscal cliff our next guest says the economy is totally at risk. without a deal we could go back into recession next couple months. joining us david blitzer, s&p dow jones indices managing director. you know, what happens if we go over the cliff but they quickly come to a resolution, they make everything retroactive back to jan 1, does that stave off recession? >> it probably saves off recession. there will be a lot of anxiety and concern. it is a long series of items. not just like one tax rule, one spending cut. it is pages and pages. never do anything in a few pages in washington. so you would have to unwind it but the concern is, and this is all growing like a labor negotiation. it doesn't start until about 11:55 p.m. at the midnight deadline. if boehner says he is going to a new year's eve party in ohio i would worry. if going home for the weekend that's fine. he has a couple weeks, all right? same thing goes for the president obviously. but, also like a labor negotiation, when the strike starts everybody goes off and spends three day
while congressional leaders trade jabs on the fiscal cliff our next guest says the economy is totally at risk. without a deal we could go back into recession next couple months. joining us david blitzer, s&p dow jones indices managing director. you know, what happens if we go over the cliff but they quickly come to a resolution, they make everything retroactive back to jan 1, does that stave off recession? >> it probably saves off recession. there will be a lot of anxiety and concern....
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if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember, it's only 2%. >> with both sides in washington publicly digging in their heels, how much will the fiscal cliff impact the credit markets? ben garber joins us for more. ben, good morning. clearly we're focused on the down side risk from the budget standoff and then there's beyond that. let's talk about the short term at the moment. what impact is that having? >> i think people have to be defensive in the short term. there will be a lot of rancor on both sides. so within the next month or so, as the fiscal cliff debate developments, there is limited up side for interest rates and it's hard to see stocks moving much higher. >> so let's suppose we get an agreement. that should increase confidence. does that mean the economy performs better next year than we expect and then what's the feed through from that? >> yeah, i think while we're now focused
if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember, it's only 2%. >> with both sides in washington publicly digging in their heels, how much will the fiscal cliff impact the credit markets? ben garber joins us for more. ben, good morning. clearly we're focused on the down side risk from the budget...
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there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is fact approaching. we know it is something that would threaten not only the united states economy, but the economies around the globe. if we go over that cliff, there will be steep cuts and spending and steep tax increases that would automatically kick in. what we're doing here today is talking to our elected officials, talking to people who are involved in these talks, trying to figure out what will happen, where we are and if there's any way to avoid that cliff, if there's a good way to come about with tax reform and a close look at what's been happening on the spending side, as well. we have a lineup of a lot of gets who are here. joining us this morning, early on we'll be joined by representative jeb henserling. he will give us on some of the insight on what is happening. we're talking to senators this morning. senator ron johnson will be joining us. and grove er nordquist. he is rite in the center of this base. a lot of people see him as a huge part of the problem. if you want to get something solv
there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is fact approaching. we know it is something that would threaten not only the united states economy, but the economies around the globe. if we go over that cliff, there will be steep cuts and spending and steep tax increases that would automatically kick in. what we're doing here today is talking to our elected officials, talking to people who are involved in these talks, trying to figure out what will happen, where we are and if...
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here he is. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and our jobs, the white house has wasted another week. you know, eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase in the debt limit like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen. washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an
here he is. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and our jobs, the white house has wasted another week. you know, eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase in the debt limit like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of...
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the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts or reforms. that's not fixing our problem, frankly, it's making it worse. and on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many small business owners. now, even if we did exactly what the president wants, we would see red ink for as far as the eye can see. that's not fixing our problem either, it's making it worse, and it's hurting our economy. i think the members know i'm an optimist. i'm hopeful that we can reach an agreement. this is a serious issue, and and there's a lot at stake. the american people sent us here to work together towards the best possible solution, and that means cutting spending. now, if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. was right now -- because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wonderin
the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts or reforms. that's not fixing our problem, frankly, it's making it worse. and on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many small business owners. now, even if we did exactly what the president wants, we would see red ink for as far as the eye can...
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economy and that pending fiscal cliff. are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> you know, i remain optimistic that there are enough people of good will in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off, american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure middle class taxes don't go up on january 1. and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> prediction, are you going to be able to raise taxes, yes or no? >> taxes are going to go up one way or another. and i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on the high end individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal, but time is running short. >> how about this analysis. the obama administration wants to send a clear message that while it supports syria's coalition opposition, to lead syria's democratic transition when the assad regime falls, there is no place for extremism in the
economy and that pending fiscal cliff. are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> you know, i remain optimistic that there are enough people of good will in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off, american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure middle class taxes don't go up on january 1. and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for...
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the longer the white house walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> what i would do to respond to what the speaker has said, though, is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and democrats agree with him, agreed to over $1.5 trillion, $1.6 trillion in cuts and the budget control act and other acts of congress in this -- in this particular congress. $1.6 trillion in cuts. where are the cuts? they're in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> so it all comes down to tax revenues and spending cuts. tom foreman gives us a virtual view of what is involved in negotiations. watch. >> what you're looking at in the room is everything the federal government spends money on. and that scoreboard back there shows you the problem. last year we spent $3.6 trillion in all of the stuff. but we only took in 2.3 trillion in taxes or revenue. democrats talk in the talks about the revenue side of the equation. they say if we can find a way to gin up more taxes lean on the rich harder, that's how we can dole with the deficit. republicans agreeing
the longer the white house walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> what i would do to respond to what the speaker has said, though, is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and democrats agree with him, agreed to over $1.5 trillion, $1.6 trillion in cuts and the budget control act and other acts of congress in this -- in this particular congress. $1.6 trillion in cuts. where are the cuts? they're in bills that you, mr. speaker, have...
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fiscal cliff. 20 days, count them with me, 20 days out from higher taxes and punishing government spending cuts if there is no deal in washington to craft a softer landing. with me now from los angeles, economist, author, ben stein. ben stein, good to see you, sir. you know, look, despite all we're hearing and seeing out of washington, we can at least discern some movement on this issue of taxes. let me just take you back, house speaker john boehner, his first position was no new taxes. president obama was asking for new taxes totalling $1.6 trillion. after the election speaker of the house ponied up an offer of $800 billion, exactly halfway between his zero and the president's $1.6 trillion. and then this week the president countered at $1.4 trillion. and were they to split the difference, doing simple math here, you would be looking at new tax revenues of $1.1 trillion. do you think, ben stein, that's where they're headed right there in the middle, $1.1 trillion? >> i don't know exactly where they're headed but we're headed for higher taxes. the palmy days for the rich when the taxes got
fiscal cliff. 20 days, count them with me, 20 days out from higher taxes and punishing government spending cuts if there is no deal in washington to craft a softer landing. with me now from los angeles, economist, author, ben stein. ben stein, good to see you, sir. you know, look, despite all we're hearing and seeing out of washington, we can at least discern some movement on this issue of taxes. let me just take you back, house speaker john boehner, his first position was no new taxes....
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. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought it up during a
. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with...